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What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 2:35 pm
by whatever
Can we play after completing main quest, I mean explore what's unexplored and kill what's not killed?
Can we play more than just on Mistfell, Norland and Amireth?
When I got to the Talushorn I thought I'm in about half of the game (got almost 30000 gold to spend) and thought I'll explore other half of the Eschalon. What about Thaermore, Crakamir, Midlande, Barrea, west Norland, Wylderan etc.? Did I missed something?
Btw, in this game should be something like more advanced build-in map of the world where we can see visited and not visited yet sectors and maybe even with minimap details.
Re: What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 2:38 pm
by xolotl
whatever wrote:Can we play after completing main quest, I mean explore what's unexplored and kill what's not killed?
Can we play more than just on Mistfell, Norland and Amireth?
Book 2 includes only Mistfell, Nor'land and Amireth. As to further exploration, so long as you haven't entered the final level (with General Ghorr), you should be able to exit Talushorn and explore any areas you may have missed in the game.
What about Thaermore, Crakamir, Midlande, Barrea, west Norland, Wylderan etc.?
Book 1 is set in Thaermore and Crakamir. The others you mention aren't in any game yet.
Re: What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 2:50 pm
by xolotl
And actually, in re: minimap showing where you've been - I did actually, at one point, write a little python script to generate a map graphic based on the combined minimaps that your character has accumulated during the game. Especially once your Cartography skill is high enough to start filling in the ground as you go, it's a nice way to see if you've missed anything.
It's a commandline thing, in Python, using Cairo to do its stuff, so Linux folks would find it more useful than Windows folks, though those packages are available on Windows as well.
Just put it somewhere in your $PATH, go into a savegame slot dir, and run the script, it'll output to "whole_map.png." Make sure to exit the dir before you save to that slot again, otherwise there may be locking issues.
http://apocalyptech.com/eschalon/misc/c ... sch_map.py
An example (SPOILERS)
Enjoy!
(Oh, and in case it wasn't clear, this only processes "outside" maps, so it leaves dungeons and other inside places alone.)
Re: What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 2:55 pm
by IJBall
xolotl wrote:And actually, in re: minimap showing where you've been - I did actually, at one point, write a little python script to generate a map graphic based on the combined minimaps that your character has accumulated during the game. Especially once your Cartography skill is high enough to start filling in the ground as you go, it's a nice way to see if you've missed anything.
It's a commandline thing, in Python, using Cairo to do its stuff, so Linux folks would find it more useful than Windows folks, though those packages are available on Windows itself.
Hey, xolotl - please pass this info on to BW: I very much want a feature like this (a so-called "meta" map) in Book III!
xolotl wrote:Book 1 is set in Thaermore and Crakamir.
Though, even in Book I's case, you're only seeing
portions of both!...
Re: What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 4:50 pm
by whatever
xolotl wrote:Just put it somewhere in your $PATH, go into a savegame slot dir, and run the script, it'll output to "whole_map.png." Make sure to exit the dir before you save to that slot again, otherwise there may be locking issues.
Where exactly put it and how to run it on Win?
Re: What after the end?
Posted: July 29th, 2010, 5:00 pm
by xolotl
whatever wrote:Where exactly put it and how to run it on Win?
Remember that I warned you that it's much easier to run via Linux. :)
1) Install
Python and
gtk+ (
this one, most likely, though
the gtk-win version might work, and be easier -
gladewin32 is ancient but might work too), and
PyCairo. It's possible you'd need PyGTK and PyGObject
mentioned here, though it'd be worth it to try without, first.
2) I suppose you could throw it into c:\windows\system32 or something, though maybe it'd make sense to just put it elsewhere and call it directly, a la:
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C:\...\Book 2 Saved Games\slot10> C:\Somewhere\construct_esch_map.py
3) Note that that's from inside "cmd.exe" or whatever; you wouldn't be able to just double-click on it. At least modern Windowses have proper tab-completion.
If demand's high enough, perhaps I'll come back to this later and do up a simple little GUI for the Windows (and other) folks to use (with a much-simpler EXE installer), though I'd be lying if I said it's high on my priority list. Most of my personal-programming time's been diverted to getting a Book 2 map editor up and running. :)
